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The Refined Collective Podcast

Dec 4, 2018

I am so grateful to be chatting with Radha Agrawal on the podcast today. She is the co-founder, CEO, and chief community architect at Daybreaker (the best morning dance party ever). She is also an entrepreneur, having co-founded THINX and LiveItUp, and the author of Belong. I could go on and on about these incredible titles, but let’s dive into who lies beneath all of that. We talk all about what her journey to motherhood has looked like and how she has worked to create community in everything she does.

The Journey to Motherhood

  • She waited 36 years to find the love of her life. She remembers questioning whether she wanted to have children, but she met her husband and realized she wanted to create life with him.
  • When they tried to have children, she got pregnant right away. Unfortunately, she miscarried right away as well.
  • “You go from this anticipatory experience- the excitement, the waiting- and then the miscarriage, you’re asking yourself, ‘is it too late?”
  • A month and a half later, she got pregnant again. Today, she is seven months pregnant with a baby girl.
  • “The birthing process is just such a miracle… I have such a deep appreciation for what it means to be human.”


  • “I’ve never felt a deeper sense of belonging to another being than I do having a being growing inside of me.”
  • Her book explores the idea that we are all looking to belong. However, as a country, we are lonely and isolated.
  • “The single most important thing we can do as human beings is to create community for ourselves and for others. It is the most generous act we can do.”
  • She recognizes that the sensitivity of rejection keeps us from reaching out and building community.
  • “That’s the hardest part of belonging: being the first person on the dance floor dancing.”
  • She talks about the fear surrounding leadership on all levels, whether that leading a team as a CEO or reaching out to a friend to see if they want to hang out.


  • We talk about the importance of community, and a community of many people. We can’t put the pressure of serving every role on just one person.
  • She remembers not feeling connected to the friends she had in her twenties.
  • “I woke up at 30 and looked at myself in the mirror and said, ‘my light is dim’.”
  • From that moment forward, she made the changes she knew she needed.
  • “Belonging starts with yourself. You have to know who you are first.”
  • She explores the struggle of labels. The labels we place on ourselves hold us back from growth.


  • Imagine your typical wild Saturday night out. But replace the alcohol with breakfast treats.
  • In the early hours of weekday mornings, Daybreaker gives people the place to be who they are, whether they want to be social or want to keep to themselves.
  • It involves yoga, dancing, and is all you can eat and all you can drink. Pretty much the greatest experience ever.
  • “We’re creating space for people. We need a place to self-express.”
  • “How do we gather? How do we create and design experiences? How do we make friends?”
  • She addresses the fact that technology has the power to distance us from each other.
  • “You have all of the power to decide what type of life you want to lead. You have all the opportunities at your fingertips to be able to do that.”

Don’t you just love Radha? I did not want to end our conversation! To keep up with her and her work, head over to to order her book. You can also find her at and at her website Send this girl some love.

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This episode is brought to you by the free PDF guide called “Moving Through Fear.” It is full of resources that I hope will help guide you through rejecting the lies in your life and finding the truth.


Kat Harris