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The Refined Collective Podcast

Apr 29, 2020

This week, I’m chatting with Jeremy and Adrienne Camp. Jeremy and Adrienne are singers and songwriters who met while on tour. Jeremy is GRAMMY-nominated and Adrienne was the lead singer of the Christian rock band the Benjamin Gate and later recorded two solo albums. The two have been married for 17 years have 2 daughters and a son. Their movie I Still Believe was released in March— it’s about Jeremy’s marriage with his first wife Melissa. Jeremy and Adrienne just released their book In Unison

I drilled them, y’all. We talked about their story, getting stuck in the friend zone, and if sexual attraction can grow between people who start out as friends. Plus, in 17 years of marriage—how do you fight well? And how can we set ourselves up for our future today



  • They recall not seeing each other as their types when they first met.
  • We talk about whether sexual attraction can grow or if it has to be there from the start.
  • “There needs to be a relationship of depth and honor and respect there in order for me to love him with my body.”
  • Fighting well: she needs to figure it out right away and he needs time to step back and process. “We had to learn those places of grace for each other along the way.”


6 Ways to Sow Into Your Marriage

  1. Stay connected to Jesus.
  • “If things are dry in my relationship with the Lord, essentially they are dry everywhere else.”
  • Adrienne prays: “Jesus, be new to me!”
  1. Choose to have a soft heart towards each other. It’s a choice.
  2. Be intentional about dating.
  3. Find things you both love and do them together.
  4. Create space for heart connection.
  • Connect not just physically, but on a heart level.
  • How is your heart?
  • How are we doing?
  • Are there things I’ve done that have frustrated you?
  • What can we work on?
  1. Be willing to do the work!!!
  • “We look ahead and we want the harvest, but we’re not willing to do the hard work today.”


How to Invest Into Your Marriage (When You’re Single)

  • Learn to deal with conflict in your friendships.
  • Deal with your own issues. Be willing to do the work.
  • Seek God. “When we’re seeking Him to find a reward, we’re not going to find that. He’s already given us the greatest reward.”



  • Watch the movie I Still Believe here.
  • Listen to the movie’s soundtrack here.
  • You can buy Jeremy and Adrienne’s book, In Unisonhere.
  • You can buy Jeremy’s book, I Still Believehere.
  • You can buy Adrienne's book, Even Me, here.
  • Keep up with them at @adiecamp and @jeremycampofficial on Instagram.
  • Check out their work with Speaking Louder here.


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